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		<title>By: Jeff O'Connor</title>
		<link>http://www.socialtimes.com/2008/03/the-golden-rule-of-online-communities/#comment-1113</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff O'Connor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Mar 2008 16:00:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I recently had a nasty situation occur on Facebook where I was sent harassing, racist email by another user out-of-the-blue.

I've never gotten spam on Facebook or that sort of abuse, which I see daily on MySpace, Vox, and other popular social networking sites, and it really bothered me.  I decided to repost the material with the originator's profile link on a number of relevant Facebook community pages to see if the community would mobilize to quash this sort of thing.

If you click the Website link above, you can read about what happened next - I lost my account, I got my account back, and assuming the profile information on this person is not a complete fabrication, I'd like to pursue criminal and/or civil action against her.

However, what's most relevant out of the entire situation to this post is what happened afterwards: my experience got blogged about by a young lady who really picked-up on the political context of my being harassed (the person sending the hate mail was a self-identified Clinton supporter; I am a self-identified Obama supporter, but to my knowledge we've never met or interacted online or offline).  

In her summation of my experience, it was all about my pointing the finger at the Clinton campaign and making broad accusations about it and its members engaging in dirty politics; in my mind, the political context was more of a footnote and being a Clinton supporter was just one means of identifying the person who had harassed me.

Because of all this, I have to agree with Baratunde: motivation isn't always easy to discern online - at least not in the current, primarily text paradigm of blogs and conversation threads.

In my situation, I tried to make a point of applying offline social norms to online interaction, along with all the privileges and penalties that naturally follow.  Yet the first person to "pick up and run" with my story missed that point completely.  

I don't think that makes me "good" and her "bad;" I think it means that all the things that color our perceptions offline are amplified online (because even collaborate Web experiences usually involve people sitting by themselves in front of a keyboard), and most of the context cues that reign these assumptions in so that two people can "be on the same page" rarely get to come into play.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I recently had a nasty situation occur on Facebook where I was sent harassing, racist email by another user out-of-the-blue.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve never gotten spam on Facebook or that sort of abuse, which I see daily on MySpace, Vox, and other popular social networking sites, and it really bothered me.  I decided to repost the material with the originator&#8217;s profile link on a number of relevant Facebook community pages to see if the community would mobilize to quash this sort of thing.</p>
<p>If you click the Website link above, you can read about what happened next - I lost my account, I got my account back, and assuming the profile information on this person is not a complete fabrication, I&#8217;d like to pursue criminal and/or civil action against her.</p>
<p>However, what&#8217;s most relevant out of the entire situation to this post is what happened afterwards: my experience got blogged about by a young lady who really picked-up on the political context of my being harassed (the person sending the hate mail was a self-identified Clinton supporter; I am a self-identified Obama supporter, but to my knowledge we&#8217;ve never met or interacted online or offline).  </p>
<p>In her summation of my experience, it was all about my pointing the finger at the Clinton campaign and making broad accusations about it and its members engaging in dirty politics; in my mind, the political context was more of a footnote and being a Clinton supporter was just one means of identifying the person who had harassed me.</p>
<p>Because of all this, I have to agree with Baratunde: motivation isn&#8217;t always easy to discern online - at least not in the current, primarily text paradigm of blogs and conversation threads.</p>
<p>In my situation, I tried to make a point of applying offline social norms to online interaction, along with all the privileges and penalties that naturally follow.  Yet the first person to &#8220;pick up and run&#8221; with my story missed that point completely.  </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think that makes me &#8220;good&#8221; and her &#8220;bad;&#8221; I think it means that all the things that color our perceptions offline are amplified online (because even collaborate Web experiences usually involve people sitting by themselves in front of a keyboard), and most of the context cues that reign these assumptions in so that two people can &#8220;be on the same page&#8221; rarely get to come into play.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff O&#39;Connor</title>
		<link>http://www.socialtimes.com/2008/03/the-golden-rule-of-online-communities/#comment-5268</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff O&#39;Connor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Mar 2008 16:00:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I recently had a nasty situation occur on Facebook where I was sent harassing, racist email by another user out-of-the-blue.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I&#39;ve never gotten spam on Facebook or that sort of abuse, which I see daily on MySpace, Vox, and other popular social networking sites, and it really bothered me.  I decided to repost the material with the originator&#39;s profile link on a number of relevant Facebook community pages to see if the community would mobilize to quash this sort of thing.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;If you click the Website link above, you can read about what happened next - I lost my account, I got my account back, and assuming the profile information on this person is not a complete fabrication, I&#39;d like to pursue criminal and/or civil action against her.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;However, what&#39;s most relevant out of the entire situation to this post is what happened afterwards: my experience got blogged about by a young lady who really picked-up on the political context of my being harassed (the person sending the hate mail was a self-identified Clinton supporter; I am a self-identified Obama supporter, but to my knowledge we&#39;ve never met or interacted online or offline).  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;In her summation of my experience, it was all about my pointing the finger at the Clinton campaign and making broad accusations about it and its members engaging in dirty politics; in my mind, the political context was more of a footnote and being a Clinton supporter was just one means of identifying the person who had harassed me.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Because of all this, I have to agree with Baratunde: motivation isn&#39;t always easy to discern online - at least not in the current, primarily text paradigm of blogs and conversation threads.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;In my situation, I tried to make a point of applying offline social norms to online interaction, along with all the privileges and penalties that naturally follow.  Yet the first person to "pick up and run" with my story missed that point completely.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I don&#39;t think that makes me "good" and her "bad;" I think it means that all the things that color our perceptions offline are amplified online (because even collaborate Web experiences usually involve people sitting by themselves in front of a keyboard), and most of the context cues that reign these assumptions in so that two people can "be on the same page" rarely get to come into play.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I recently had a nasty situation occur on Facebook where I was sent harassing, racist email by another user out-of-the-blue.</p>
<p>I&#39;ve never gotten spam on Facebook or that sort of abuse, which I see daily on MySpace, Vox, and other popular social networking sites, and it really bothered me.  I decided to repost the material with the originator&#39;s profile link on a number of relevant Facebook community pages to see if the community would mobilize to quash this sort of thing.</p>
<p>If you click the Website link above, you can read about what happened next - I lost my account, I got my account back, and assuming the profile information on this person is not a complete fabrication, I&#39;d like to pursue criminal and/or civil action against her.</p>
<p>However, what&#39;s most relevant out of the entire situation to this post is what happened afterwards: my experience got blogged about by a young lady who really picked-up on the political context of my being harassed (the person sending the hate mail was a self-identified Clinton supporter; I am a self-identified Obama supporter, but to my knowledge we&#39;ve never met or interacted online or offline).  </p>
<p>In her summation of my experience, it was all about my pointing the finger at the Clinton campaign and making broad accusations about it and its members engaging in dirty politics; in my mind, the political context was more of a footnote and being a Clinton supporter was just one means of identifying the person who had harassed me.</p>
<p>Because of all this, I have to agree with Baratunde: motivation isn&#39;t always easy to discern online - at least not in the current, primarily text paradigm of blogs and conversation threads.</p>
<p>In my situation, I tried to make a point of applying offline social norms to online interaction, along with all the privileges and penalties that naturally follow.  Yet the first person to &#8220;pick up and run&#8221; with my story missed that point completely.  </p>
<p>I don&#39;t think that makes me &#8220;good&#8221; and her &#8220;bad;&#8221; I think it means that all the things that color our perceptions offline are amplified online (because even collaborate Web experiences usually involve people sitting by themselves in front of a keyboard), and most of the context cues that reign these assumptions in so that two people can &#8220;be on the same page&#8221; rarely get to come into play.</p>
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		<title>By: Nick O'Neill</title>
		<link>http://www.socialtimes.com/2008/03/the-golden-rule-of-online-communities/#comment-1087</link>
		<dc:creator>Nick O'Neill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Mar 2008 20:53:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@baratunde , awesome comment and thanks for posting it.  I definitely agree that it is easier to mislead online but ultimately the truth comes out.  I think online it happens even quicker unless you are a master conman.  For those people, they should hit the road :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@baratunde , awesome comment and thanks for posting it.  I definitely agree that it is easier to mislead online but ultimately the truth comes out.  I think online it happens even quicker unless you are a master conman.  For those people, they should hit the road <img src='http://www.socialtimes.com/wordpress/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: Nick O&#39;Neill</title>
		<link>http://www.socialtimes.com/2008/03/the-golden-rule-of-online-communities/#comment-5267</link>
		<dc:creator>Nick O&#39;Neill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Mar 2008 20:53:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@baratunde , awesome comment and thanks for posting it.  I definitely agree that it is easier to mislead online but ultimately the truth comes out.  I think online it happens even quicker unless you are a master conman.  For those people, they should hit the road :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@baratunde , awesome comment and thanks for posting it.  I definitely agree that it is easier to mislead online but ultimately the truth comes out.  I think online it happens even quicker unless you are a master conman.  For those people, they should hit the road <img src='http://www.socialtimes.com/wordpress/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: Baratunde Thurston</title>
		<link>http://www.socialtimes.com/2008/03/the-golden-rule-of-online-communities/#comment-1086</link>
		<dc:creator>Baratunde Thurston</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Mar 2008 20:52:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i agree that the golden rule is a good place to start. 

i disagree that your intentions are more obvious online. if anything, i've found that true intent is more difficult to ascertain through text. email, online forums/blogs, SMS. all these tools strip the emotion and true "intent" out of communication, often amplifying misunderstanding 

word choice is critical and tone is absent.

as for social media making us good or good people necessarily being rewarded via social media. absolutely not. 

there is great potential in this emerging medium, but so was there in written language and books and public education and libraries and television/radio. none of these things, i believe, change the essential nature of our humanity. 

some good people will succeed. others will not. 
some bad people will fail. others will succeed.

i don't think there's anything inherent in social media that makes us good. we can deceive and manipulate and exploit one another regardless of the tools. "badness" is wired into us as much as goodness.

you can see it in the 419 email scams and false katrina donation campaigns. think it's somehow harder to commit crimes via social media. not at all. many of these tools make it EASIER to be "bad"

the same connectivity that strengthens friend/family relationships and makes the world smaller, makes it an enticing target. fraud flies quickly through the network (look at the international financial system now. distress in asia is felt immediately in NYC and London).

i believe that the emergence of a more distributed, bottom up "social media" holds great potential for empowerment, knowledge-sharing and learning. but the benefits of such a shift accrue to "good" as well as "bad," and I think we make a mistake to expect anything different</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i agree that the golden rule is a good place to start. </p>
<p>i disagree that your intentions are more obvious online. if anything, i&#8217;ve found that true intent is more difficult to ascertain through text. email, online forums/blogs, SMS. all these tools strip the emotion and true &#8220;intent&#8221; out of communication, often amplifying misunderstanding </p>
<p>word choice is critical and tone is absent.</p>
<p>as for social media making us good or good people necessarily being rewarded via social media. absolutely not. </p>
<p>there is great potential in this emerging medium, but so was there in written language and books and public education and libraries and television/radio. none of these things, i believe, change the essential nature of our humanity. </p>
<p>some good people will succeed. others will not.<br />
some bad people will fail. others will succeed.</p>
<p>i don&#8217;t think there&#8217;s anything inherent in social media that makes us good. we can deceive and manipulate and exploit one another regardless of the tools. &#8220;badness&#8221; is wired into us as much as goodness.</p>
<p>you can see it in the 419 email scams and false katrina donation campaigns. think it&#8217;s somehow harder to commit crimes via social media. not at all. many of these tools make it EASIER to be &#8220;bad&#8221;</p>
<p>the same connectivity that strengthens friend/family relationships and makes the world smaller, makes it an enticing target. fraud flies quickly through the network (look at the international financial system now. distress in asia is felt immediately in NYC and London).</p>
<p>i believe that the emergence of a more distributed, bottom up &#8220;social media&#8221; holds great potential for empowerment, knowledge-sharing and learning. but the benefits of such a shift accrue to &#8220;good&#8221; as well as &#8220;bad,&#8221; and I think we make a mistake to expect anything different</p>
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		<title>By: Baratunde Thurston</title>
		<link>http://www.socialtimes.com/2008/03/the-golden-rule-of-online-communities/#comment-5221</link>
		<dc:creator>Baratunde Thurston</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Mar 2008 20:52:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i agree that the golden rule is a good place to start. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;i disagree that your intentions are more obvious online. if anything, i&#39;ve found that true intent is more difficult to ascertain through text. email, online forums/blogs, SMS. all these tools strip the emotion and true "intent" out of communication, often amplifying misunderstanding &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;word choice is critical and tone is absent.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;as for social media making us good or good people necessarily being rewarded via social media. absolutely not. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;there is great potential in this emerging medium, but so was there in written language and books and public education and libraries and television/radio. none of these things, i believe, change the essential nature of our humanity. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;some good people will succeed. others will not. &lt;br&gt;some bad people will fail. others will succeed.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;i don&#39;t think there&#39;s anything inherent in social media that makes us good. we can deceive and manipulate and exploit one another regardless of the tools. "badness" is wired into us as much as goodness.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;you can see it in the 419 email scams and false katrina donation campaigns. think it&#39;s somehow harder to commit crimes via social media. not at all. many of these tools make it EASIER to be "bad"&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;the same connectivity that strengthens friend/family relationships and makes the world smaller, makes it an enticing target. fraud flies quickly through the network (look at the international financial system now. distress in asia is felt immediately in NYC and London).&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;i believe that the emergence of a more distributed, bottom up "social media" holds great potential for empowerment, knowledge-sharing and learning. but the benefits of such a shift accrue to "good" as well as "bad," and I think we make a mistake to expect anything different</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i agree that the golden rule is a good place to start. </p>
<p>i disagree that your intentions are more obvious online. if anything, i&#39;ve found that true intent is more difficult to ascertain through text. email, online forums/blogs, SMS. all these tools strip the emotion and true &#8220;intent&#8221; out of communication, often amplifying misunderstanding </p>
<p>word choice is critical and tone is absent.</p>
<p>as for social media making us good or good people necessarily being rewarded via social media. absolutely not. </p>
<p>there is great potential in this emerging medium, but so was there in written language and books and public education and libraries and television/radio. none of these things, i believe, change the essential nature of our humanity. </p>
<p>some good people will succeed. others will not. <br />some bad people will fail. others will succeed.</p>
<p>i don&#39;t think there&#39;s anything inherent in social media that makes us good. we can deceive and manipulate and exploit one another regardless of the tools. &#8220;badness&#8221; is wired into us as much as goodness.</p>
<p>you can see it in the 419 email scams and false katrina donation campaigns. think it&#39;s somehow harder to commit crimes via social media. not at all. many of these tools make it EASIER to be &#8220;bad&#8221;</p>
<p>the same connectivity that strengthens friend/family relationships and makes the world smaller, makes it an enticing target. fraud flies quickly through the network (look at the international financial system now. distress in asia is felt immediately in NYC and London).</p>
<p>i believe that the emergence of a more distributed, bottom up &#8220;social media&#8221; holds great potential for empowerment, knowledge-sharing and learning. but the benefits of such a shift accrue to &#8220;good&#8221; as well as &#8220;bad,&#8221; and I think we make a mistake to expect anything different</p>
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