Comments on: Is OpenSocial Social at All? http://www.socialtimes.com/2008/01/is-opensocial-social-at-all/ The Social Times covers news, analysis and insight pertaining to the social web. Learn how to brand yourself and your company via the social web. Tue, 06 Jan 2009 08:19:07 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5 By: Google Unleashes the Social Graph; It’s A Bunch of Theory - Covering All That's Social All the Web http://www.socialtimes.com/2008/01/is-opensocial-social-at-all/#comment-459 Google Unleashes the Social Graph; It’s A Bunch of Theory - Covering All That's Social All the Web Fri, 01 Feb 2008 20:24:43 +0000 http://www.socialtimes.com/2008/01/is-opensocial-social-at-all/#comment-459 [...] for the day that social networks decide to open up their list of contacts publicly to the web. As I wrote yesterday, even with the new DataPortability workgroup, the odds of social networks suddenly opening up is [...] […] for the day that social networks decide to open up their list of contacts publicly to the web. As I wrote yesterday, even with the new DataPortability workgroup, the odds of social networks suddenly opening up is […]

]]> By: Frank http://www.socialtimes.com/2008/01/is-opensocial-social-at-all/#comment-441 Frank Fri, 01 Feb 2008 01:54:37 +0000 http://www.socialtimes.com/2008/01/is-opensocial-social-at-all/#comment-441 I think OpenSocial might turn out to be more of an "open" Google Gadget standard. I think Google is just trying to do what Netvibes has been trying to do with the open UWA standard. However Google is, well, Google so they have a little more muscle. It will be interesting if they will be able to make the standard stick. I think OpenSocial might turn out to be more of an “open” Google Gadget standard. I think Google is just trying to do what Netvibes has been trying to do with the open UWA standard. However Google is, well, Google so they have a little more muscle. It will be interesting if they will be able to make the standard stick.

]]> By: Brian Breslin http://www.socialtimes.com/2008/01/is-opensocial-social-at-all/#comment-440 Brian Breslin Fri, 01 Feb 2008 01:46:12 +0000 http://www.socialtimes.com/2008/01/is-opensocial-social-at-all/#comment-440 Finally! I've been saying this for months. OpenSocial is closer to OpenGadgets or GoogleGadgets Platform for the web. We have to start distinguishing between a widget, and an actual App on these networks. One is far more robust than the other. Relatively complex applications can be built on the facebook social graph, the same case cannot be said for opensocial yet. Glad everyone isn't drinking all the google kool-aid/anti facebook kool-aid Finally! I’ve been saying this for months. OpenSocial is closer to OpenGadgets or GoogleGadgets Platform for the web. We have to start distinguishing between a widget, and an actual App on these networks. One is far more robust than the other.
Relatively complex applications can be built on the facebook social graph, the same case cannot be said for opensocial yet.

Glad everyone isn’t drinking all the google kool-aid/anti facebook kool-aid

]]> By: Frank http://www.socialtimes.com/2008/01/is-opensocial-social-at-all/#comment-4375 Frank Fri, 01 Feb 2008 00:54:37 +0000 http://www.socialtimes.com/2008/01/is-opensocial-social-at-all/#comment-4375 I think OpenSocial might turn out to be more of an "open" Google Gadget standard. I think Google is just trying to do what Netvibes has been trying to do with the open UWA standard. However Google is, well, Google so they have a little more muscle. It will be interesting if they will be able to make the standard stick. I think OpenSocial might turn out to be more of an “open” Google Gadget standard. I think Google is just trying to do what Netvibes has been trying to do with the open UWA standard. However Google is, well, Google so they have a little more muscle. It will be interesting if they will be able to make the standard stick.

]]> By: Danny http://www.socialtimes.com/2008/01/is-opensocial-social-at-all/#comment-439 Danny Thu, 31 Jan 2008 23:35:10 +0000 http://www.socialtimes.com/2008/01/is-opensocial-social-at-all/#comment-439 Canter has it completely wrong, but only because Google did such a poor job of defining OpenSocial that the blogosphere somehow assumed OpenSocial had something to do with social graph portability (hint: it doesn't). OpenSocial is simply a broadly defined abstraction for connecting social "containers" (e.g. platforms that manage a user's activity stream, friends and profile information) with social "applications" (e.g. web apps that manage this data and render inside containers). In that sense, OpenSocial is exactly what it is designed to be: an "open" standard for social applications (vs. the proprietary standard defined by Facebook). As to whether the standard is more than "OpenGadgets": anyone can sign up for OpenSocial sandbox access and see for themselves: as of today, the Orkut sandbox has OpenSocial 0.6 implemented and yes, OpenSocial apps exist today that embrace the "social and profile components of a site." And thanks to projects such as Shindig, OpenSocial apps are going to be running on more sites than people think. Canter has it completely wrong, but only because Google did such a poor job of defining OpenSocial that the blogosphere somehow assumed OpenSocial had something to do with social graph portability (hint: it doesn’t).

OpenSocial is simply a broadly defined abstraction for connecting social “containers” (e.g. platforms that manage a user’s activity stream, friends and profile information) with social “applications” (e.g. web apps that manage this data and render inside containers).

In that sense, OpenSocial is exactly what it is designed to be: an “open” standard for social applications (vs. the proprietary standard defined by Facebook).

As to whether the standard is more than “OpenGadgets”: anyone can sign up for OpenSocial sandbox access and see for themselves: as of today, the Orkut sandbox has OpenSocial 0.6 implemented and yes, OpenSocial apps exist today that embrace the “social and profile components of a site.”

And thanks to projects such as Shindig, OpenSocial apps are going to be running on more sites than people think.

]]> By: Ike http://www.socialtimes.com/2008/01/is-opensocial-social-at-all/#comment-436 Ike Thu, 31 Jan 2008 20:12:05 +0000 http://www.socialtimes.com/2008/01/is-opensocial-social-at-all/#comment-436 I'll know all I need to know once Orkut becomes OpenSocial compatible. I’ll know all I need to know once Orkut becomes OpenSocial compatible.

]]> By: Geoff Livingston http://www.socialtimes.com/2008/01/is-opensocial-social-at-all/#comment-435 Geoff Livingston Thu, 31 Jan 2008 20:08:33 +0000 http://www.socialtimes.com/2008/01/is-opensocial-social-at-all/#comment-435 Wow! Scathing -- and accurate -- commentary! Wow! Scathing — and accurate — commentary!

]]> By: Geoff Livingston http://www.socialtimes.com/2008/01/is-opensocial-social-at-all/#comment-4374 Geoff Livingston Thu, 31 Jan 2008 19:08:33 +0000 http://www.socialtimes.com/2008/01/is-opensocial-social-at-all/#comment-4374 Wow! Scathing -- and accurate -- commentary! Wow! Scathing — and accurate — commentary!

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